tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post3880450538024319563..comments2024-02-29T16:43:55.241-05:00Comments on Lurking Rhythmically: Monday Gunday: An instructor shoots the PMR-30Erin Palettehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09984632637166408245noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-10696175379650019052012-11-08T18:25:30.778-05:002012-11-08T18:25:30.778-05:00Marine Corps tested the FN FiveseveN at Quantico.
...Marine Corps tested the FN FiveseveN at Quantico.<br /><br />Terminal ballistics (wound profile, depth, etc.) in ballistic gelatin were indistinguishable from .22WMR.<br /><br />So, unless you absolutely need the armor piercing capability (which you can't, as a civilian, buy the ammo for), there is no advantage to the 5.7mm round over .22WMR. (If you DO need the AP capability in a handgun, buy a Tokarev TT33 or Czech Vz52, and load milsurp ball -- good penetration AND a better wound channel than 5.7 {chuckle}.)Rick Randallhttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001715268532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-72137997183114854642012-11-01T04:52:43.608-04:002012-11-01T04:52:43.608-04:00I've shot a FN FiveseveN pistol and the two gu...I've shot a FN FiveseveN pistol and the two guns are very comparable in size, shape, and overall ballistics. FiveseveN retails for around $1,000, probably has a better overall build quality (tho both guns are NOT heralded as amazing feats of engineering) and the 5.7x28mm probably has a few foot-pounds of energy at muzzle out of the Pistol than .22 WMR.<br /><br />That being said the PMR30 holds 10 more rounds, costs a ton less. Ammo can be had at any Wal-Mart or sporting goods store, and is MUCH cheaper. The sights are LOADS better, and my initial impressions on picking up both guns for the first time, the FiveseveN feels like a standard polymer pistol, the PMR30 feels like a Wal-Mart squirt gun. Now since the PMR30 I've shot WORKS, that "Cheap" feel actually means its light can easy to carry, so victory there.<br /><br />Really the big advantage of the FiveseveN is you can actually FIND them. I generally have seen one at every gun shop I've walked into outside of Massachusetts where they can't be sold.<br /><br />Again Kel-Tec, start cranking up your production! People will BUY THEM!<br /><br />Even with their reputation for QC, Taurus still manages to sell guns like crazy out the door, and I'd trust my life with a Kel-Tec long before I would bother with a pistol from Brazil.Weerdbeardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-23127734011818653362012-10-30T13:12:43.056-04:002012-10-30T13:12:43.056-04:00You really ought to check out this guest post from...You really ought to check out <a href="http://lurkingrhythmically.blogspot.com/2012/10/monday-gunday-guest-post-carrying-pmr.html" rel="nofollow">this guest post</a> from a lady who carries the PMR as a self defense piece because she has nerve damage from a broken neck. Erin Palettehttp://lurkingrhythmically.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-53410601295103051702012-10-30T13:08:34.525-04:002012-10-30T13:08:34.525-04:00Thank you for the review--I'm "in the mar...Thank you for the review--I'm "in the market" for a new handgun, and have bone issues in my dominant hand, so recoil is a big time factor. This is very helpful.Ignorant rednecknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-9320599578508843502012-10-29T23:44:11.535-04:002012-10-29T23:44:11.535-04:00Hey, I just wrote what he said. When and if my mom...Hey, I just wrote what he said. When and if my mom ever shoots it, we will find out if it's easier for her to cock. Erin Palettehttp://lurkingrhythmically.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-6434624753906189752012-10-29T23:42:01.071-04:002012-10-29T23:42:01.071-04:00Aww shucks, Miss B, you'll swell my head. :DAww shucks, Miss B, you'll swell my head. :DErin Palettehttp://lurkingrhythmically.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-21188345035171555142012-10-29T23:32:07.708-04:002012-10-29T23:32:07.708-04:00I like these types of posts, you are thorough, ye...I like these types of posts, you are thorough, yet honest, something some gun reviews lack.<br /><br />I went to a recent gun show. I was itching to buy something. I went to one seller that had QUITE the collections and said I was thinking of adding another defensive piece. He immediately chimed in with "oh, heres a little .380, a lot of women buy these". He is probably still wondering why he didn't make a sale. <br /><br />There were a M1917 and a few 1911's. Geez, what's a girl to do?Brigidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-4479667575385400282012-10-29T20:57:20.554-04:002012-10-29T20:57:20.554-04:00Please continue talking about the PMR. Heck, if I ...Please continue talking about the PMR. Heck, if I get a new gun I like, it is all I shoot or talk about. Until the next one.JD Rushhttp://zedrush.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-59658574916001342272012-10-29T20:20:33.132-04:002012-10-29T20:20:33.132-04:00 "Working at gun store I find that a lot of f... "Working at gun store I find that a lot of female customers have a hard time with pulling the slide on a semi-automatic, but I think pulling the slide on the PMR is something the majority of female consumers can do."<br /><br />No offense intended but this, right here, should not be used as an endorsement of the gun. Teaching a female shooter to work the action on a semi-auto to load it or lock back the slide on an empty gun is more a matter of technique than pure strength. (It's frustrating that more male instructors don't understand how to teach female students the best technique for them while every female instructor I've met understands it)<br /><br />While I also run across many female students who initially have problems working the action on a semi-auto after a few minutes instruction on the correct technique almost every has learned how to do it sucessfully with no problems. (The exception was one student with severe arthritis and hand strength issues who just couldn't manage any pistol larger than a .22 both for loading and recoil control - The PMR might work for her, but for the vast majority of new female shooters they'll be better off learning the correct technique to open up the possibilites for other, more effective, guns).Rob (Trebor)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6649591714373684167.post-30865155429886175412012-10-29T16:22:23.036-04:002012-10-29T16:22:23.036-04:00Well. The 5-7 has very low recoil, and I've he...Well. The 5-7 has very low recoil, and I've heard that they've lowered the trigger pull to something less military strength. But even with the old version you can fire very fast and accurate series. I've only touched and fired with it once (out of the military blue box, which contains the most common military firearms in circulation now and what's expected to be in the near future. Although we payed considerably more attention to the soviet block stuff).<br /><br />It does feel toylike in weight and recoil (firing a fairly light round and being constructed mostly from lightweight polymers), you can hardly believe that it fires a round that can shred anything but the heaviest kevlar variants. Also, the PMR, it has a pretty huge magazine (20 rounds standard).<br />If people say it's like a cheaper Five-Seven it's a compliment. Although as a gun for defensive purposes it's not. The 5.7x28mm might be lightweight, but it penetrates deeper than even +P rounds (and like most lightweight military rounds it tumbles once inside the target).BigDemonicBunnynoreply@blogger.com